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Sailorman
Belleville, US
★★★★★ 5
A Fascinating and Engaging Read
Format: Paperback
This book was published in 2012. When it first came on the market I was intrigued by the title “Forgotten Civilizations” and it was written by Dr. Robert F. Schoch, one of the authors that I revere as a brilliant scientist and intellectual with one of the most open minds to alternate explanations of mainstream scientific paradigms in the modern scientific community. But the remainder of the title, “The Role of Solar Outburst in Our Past and Future”, kind of turned me off, as I assumed this was just another December 21, 2012 doomsday book, and after reading scare books on the coming computer disaster of the millennium change from 1999 to 2000, and several books on the coming Armageddon in 2012, where in both cases nothing happened, I was burnt out on doomsday prognostications. I couldn’t have been more wrong. This book is absolutely fascinating. I think that Graham Hancock, Andrew Collins, Robert Schoch, and other researchers and authors have adequately explained the cause of the Younger Dryas ice age, that began in 10900 BCE, as being caused by a comet impacting the northern hemisphere of earth, but speculation of what caused the end of it, about 9700 BCE, always appeared to be a pretty weak arguments to me. Here I think Dr. Schoch has nailed a very likely cause, and he has the data to back it up, with clues left from Easter Island through western United States to the middle east of something catastrophic happening in the skies 11,700 years ago. Dr. Schoch typically follows the data no matter where it leads him, even if to controversial conclusions (i.e. the Great Sphinx is much older that the Egyptian civilization, possibly 10,000 to 12,000 years old). In Chapters #7 and #8 Dr. Schoch provides a detailed history of the sun’s activity to as far back as records have been kept and as deep as ice cores and tree rings can provide empirical data. He documents the sun’s activity and the corresponding periods of abrupt and severe climate change that occurred during periods of high solar activity. Schoch points out that “our sun has been more active over the last few decade (since about the middle of the twentieth century) than it has been for thousands of years previously”. He goes on to say, “the current overall level of solar activity is the highest it has been since about 9500 BCE to 9000 BCE, near the end of the last ice age!” And, “the level of solar activity during the past 70 years is exceptional, and the previous period of equally high activity occurred more than 8,000 years ago”. Global warming? Ya think? And Schoch points out that throughout history periods of abrupt and severe climate change occur during periods of high solar activity. In Chapter #8 Dr. Schoch discusses the science of “Cosmoclimatology”, the study if how the sun, planets, our solar system, and even events that happen in deep space and in other solar systems, can have an impact on earth. It sounds fishy but Dr. Schoch shows where “changes in greenhouse gases have been correlated with global temperature changes for hundreds of thousands – even millions – of years, long before humans could conceivably have been causing such changes. Indeed, increases in carbon dioxide may in part be a consequence of global warming rather than the cause (Ferreyra 2011). Increases in temperature due to other factors (such as increases in solar activity) may warm the oceans, for instance, resulting in the releases of carbon dioxide and the inability to absorb more carbon dioxide; once the carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere, it may further reinforce global warming.” I’m trading my Toyota Prius in on the biggest pollution belching SUV I can find. Dr. Schoch points out that, Ilya G. Usoskin, “found that periods of higher solar activity and lower cosmic ray flux tend to be associated with warmer climate and vice versa”, and, “Il-Hyun Cho and colleagues have found additional evidence that solar activity can directly affect the weather and climate on earth.” Research shows that the earth experienced “hot house” conditions around 500, 375, 250, and 100 million years ago and “icehouse” conditions with periodic glaciations around 450, 300, and 150 million years ago. Dr. Schoch says, “According to the new paradigm of Cosmoclimatology (research shows) solar and galactic influences can have major effects on the climate of earth.” Chapter #12 provides a detailed description of “The Carrington Event”, something I have never heard of before and found fascinating. The Carrington Event deserves a book on its own. Perhaps there is one or Dr. Schoch will write one. The Carrington Event occurred in 1859 when a solar outburst hit the earth like a tidal wave hitting an island, seriously disrupting electrical distributions and communication systems (telegraph) of the time. Dr. Schoch then goes into describing the impact of a similar or greater intensity solar outburst on today’s electrical distribution systems, communication systems, satellites, pipelines, railroads, etc. It’s happened before and if it would happen again today, it could spoil your whole afternoon. In the last few chapters Dr. Schoch, investigates some new age alternate explanations that challenge the mainstream scientific paradigms in the scientific community. Things like extremely low frequency electromagnetic waves, sound waves, water memory, Zep Tepi, telepathy, levitation, etc. Some of this stuff, like Edgar Chase the “Sleeping Prophet”, I have trouble with, but who am I to debate Dr. Schoch? As I said earlier, Schoch is a scientist with an open mind who does not reject all theories deemed “pseudoscience” out of hand, but rather keeps an open mind, and considers all ideas. There are five appendixes (26 pages) that should not be skipped, as they are all very interesting and contribute to the understanding of the book. The only thing negative I can say about Dr. Schoch’s book is that, while Dr. Schoch has done rigorous research and has an extensive bibliography, he has listed his references in parentheses in the text rather than footnotes or numeric references to notes or the bibliography. That, along with Dr. Schoch’s liberal use of parentheses, to add additional information, I found broke my train of thought, and was annoying at first, and maddening by the time I got to the end of the book. Thus four and a half stars rounded to five, but four and a half stars certainly does not reflect the excellent quality and content of the information contained in this book. If you’re into this stuff like I am I think you will like this book, but if you are a liberal, closed mind, man-made global warming zealot, you ain’t gonn’a exactly fall in love with this book, and you might want to pick up some of Al Gore’s scientific work.
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Reviewed in the United States on February 6, 2017
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Dustin
Carnegie, US
★★★★★ 5
Forgotten Civilization: An astounding book not easily forgotten
'Forgotten Civilization' is a paradigm-shattering book which won't be easily forgotten. Dr. Robert Schoch possesses a rare talent for writing and public speaking which is backed up by and informed with all the intellectual rigor of a true scientist, but easily comprehensible and accessible to the general public. His passion for the subject of ancient civilizations is inspiring, and his courage and dedication unquestionable. For those of you interested in the mysteries surrounding ancient civilizations, 'Forgotten Civilization' is one of the best books ever written about the subject. Like most everyone else, I first heard about Dr. Robert Schoch when I saw the television show "The Mysterious Origins of Man," where he presented persuasive evidence of weathering and erosion on the Sphinx, showing that it must have been built during a much earlier time than what most Egyptologists believed. Back then a lot of Egyptologists laughed and ridiculed the notion that the Sphinx could be any older than a couple of thousand years. Twenty years later, few of them are still laughing. In 'Forgotten Civilization,' Dr. Robert Schoch turns his attention to the paradigm-busting site of Gobekli Tepe, a sophisticated megalithic complex unearthed in southeast Turkey, which dates back more than 10,000 years ago. Nobody knows who built it, but its age and existence irrefutably points to the presence of a highly sophisticated yet unknown culture who obviously possessed a great deal of technological knowledge and social organization at a time when most archeologists believed the human race was little more than nomadic cave men, capable of nothing more interesting than eking out a primitive, subsistence mode of survival through hunting and foraging. The discovery of Gobleki Tepe has turned the world of ancient civilizations and human history on its head, forcing what will eventually amount to a complete rewriting of human history. 'Forgotten Civilization' is a ground-breaking book which is vastly entertaining to read. Through the course of the book, which unravels like a globe-trotting mystery adventure-thriller, Schoch also reveals credible scientific evidence which shows how a previous high civilization could have been completely destroyed by massive solar outbursts and coronal mass ejections from the Sun, which would have scorched the surface of the planet and touched off natural disasters all over the world, plunging humanity back into a dark age which would take thousands of years to recover from. More chillingly, he shows how the Sun goes through natural cycles of activity over the course of thousands of years--and how history could repeat itself and this same fate could happen again, and destroy much of our modern civilization. Dr. Robert Schoch's book 'Forgotten Civilization' is for anyone who has ever wondered about the origins of civilization, the questions it raises about both the past and the future will remain with you long after you read the last page.
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Reviewed in the United States on November 26, 2013
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Drew B.
San Leandro, US
★★★★★ 5
Perhaps the most interesting book that I have ever read...
Format: Paperback
This book is perhaps the most fascinating piece of non-fiction that I have ever read. Dr. Schoch is a Yale educated professor at Boston University who presents information in a manner that is enjoyable and truly educational. If human history is a subject of interest for you, then you will recognize him immediately, as he has appeared on many television shows on the subject. When I bought his first book, I had the "oh, THAT guy" moment when I read the section about the author. He's the geologist/geophysicist who, back in the mid-1990's, studied the Sphinx enclosure and determined that it was condensation that smoothed the sides- rather than wind. This requires the dating of the construction of the Sphinx to draw back by many thousands of years due to the timeline of such rainfall. As such, he threw the discipline of human anthropology on it's ear. This met with much resistance from from anthropologists but, as he says, "I'm sorry if my findings contradict your theory but..." This book flows VERY smoothly and, without giving spoilers about his extensive research, provides more of an epiphany than anything that I have ever read before. Even when reading it for the second time, the book is very hard to put down. Schoch is a true educator and has a genuine talent for presenting his findings. As an author, he is clear and concise. He builds a powerful and enthralling case, the explanation of which incorporates the solving of the mysteries of the Rongorongo glyphs on Easter Island, the ancient vitrified stone castles in Scotland and the dating of the Sphinx into a plausible, scientifically supported timeline that is nothing less than completely fascinating. I have no question that my grandchildren will study human history that conforms to his research and discoveries. The irony is that he will be considered one of the "fathers of modern anthropology" for the next generation, and he's a GEOLOLOGIST! Get this book, you will NOT be disappointed!
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Reviewed in the United States on February 20, 2018
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K. Ryan Kane
Massapequa, US
★★★★★ 4
I enjoyed this book immensely
Format: Paperback
A pioneering book! It breaks new ground and proposes new ideas that are plausible. I enjoyed this book immensely. But with every pioneering book comes beliefs that may not always be what they seem. I withheld one star because there are some ideas proposed that I found hard to believe entirely. I like the fact that Dr. Schoch includes Biblical passages but I don't agree with the majority of his interpretations. For example, Ezekiel's writings and visions are not about shapes he saw in the sky that Dr. Schoch thinks are from solar outbursts or auroral displays. Instead, most of those are visions he had of the "Last Days." But he didn't know exactly what he was seeing so he did his best to describe the things he saw. The other point I would like to make is that not all of the glyphs from thousands of years ago could be describing auroral displays or solar outbursts. I would imagine that if solar flares were racing toward Earth, (1) there wouldn't be enough time to look at them and study their shapes because you would be racing for cover, (2) they would be too bright whereas nobody could actually look at them long enough to study their shapes even if they had modern sunglasses, and (3) there would be a lot more evidence of scorched and burned areas of Earth so that it would be more obvious if solar activity was what had set society back thousands of years. But I don't recall Dr. Schoch theorizing about these things. Overall the book is great and I think he right about a lot of things. Highly recommended!
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Reviewed in the United States on October 1, 2014
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Carol E.
Carnegie, US
★★★★★ 5
WHY YOU SHOULD BUY THIS BOOK
Format: Paperback
Forgotten Civilization by Dr. Robert Schoch Why should you buy this book? 1) You're already looking at it so you must have some interest in this topic. 2) Dr. Schoch has a great ability to take his, or others, theories and support them with well researched scientific data. This is helpful to those of us who are curious about alternative explanations but are still dependent on the "scientific thinking" paradigm. (He doesn't make statements like "when humans bred with aliens in 20,823 BC..."). 3) He always makes you think about conventional wisdom in a new way. For instance, in this book - the age of Easter Island statues (moai). How DID they get buried so deeply when they (conventionally) only go back to a South Pacific Polynesian settlement times?? I have stood in front of the moais on Easter Island and read many books on it's history and it never occurred to me to question the timeline. It takes that unique geologist perspective which Dr Schoch brings to his writings. 4) He introduces you to other researchers or writers that you will want to know more about. Like Thomas Brophy, Anthony Peratt, Paul LaViolette and many others. 5) The Appendices. Some excellent information on multiple topics included at the end of the book. 6) Because Dr. Schoch has gone where many others SHOULD go - against conventional archeological/historical wisdom which makes no sense. His initial theories on the age of the Sphinx as a young academic were very daring and absolutely correct. The geological community had no problem with his ideas - but Egyptologists did, and they have been after him ever since. Choosing a controversial research path has meant some changes in his academic career I'm sure, as "Academics," for all it's spouting of tremendous support for new knowledge and research is very much mired in politically correct concrete. (Go to Egypt and look for yourself. Even a casual tourist will see how wrong standard academic theories are currently). 7) I guarantee you will learn new and interesting things that just may change your life - or at the very least, change the way you think about the future. -C. Engel
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Reviewed in the United States on September 27, 2012

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